The Church is The Israel of God.

Edwin Joseph Moelder  Itinerant Evangelist

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Sola Scriptura - Solus Christus - Sola Gratia – Sola Fide - Soli Deo Gloria.

No King but King Jesus.

ATONING BLOOD OF CHRIST ALONE

Judaism and Islam are blasphemy of the Holy Trinity.

DO ZIONISM and ISLAMISM SEDUCE MOST CHRISTIANS?

Happy Fathers Day!

The God of Father Abraham, God The Father-Son-Holy Spirit, justified Abram by Abram's Faith in The Triune God, sealing him everlastingly into The Church or Body of Christ, through the Blood Atonement of Jesus The Christ.

The promises to the Israelites were conditional. See Ezekiel Chapter 8 and 2 Chronicles chapter 7.

A remnant of Israel remains. But, it is not the practitioners of the Babylonian Talmud of the Synagogues, the Jews. It is The Church.

Many sincere Christian believers in the Holy Trinity do not believe that JEW - JUDAISM - ZIONISM - JUDAH - ISRAEL - ISRAELITE are synonymous.

The Church has always been a small remnant , The Israel of God. Acts 7:38; Gal. 3:29; Gall. 6:16; Rom. 2:28-29; Rom. 9:6; Phil. 3:3

Who are the twelve tribes to which James speaks?

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James 1:1.

James, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, to the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad, greeting.

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Matthew 16:11 How is it that ye do not understand that I spake [it] not to you concerning bread, that ye should beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and of the Sadducees?

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What is the leaven that is spoken of in the above verse?

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Revelation 3:9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.

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What is The Synagogue of Satan?

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http://www.againstdispensationalism.com/

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http://www.wscal.edu/clark/israel.php

There is much more to "end-times" or ultimate things (Eschatology) than what we say actually happens in the last days. We say what we do about eschatology because of what we think God is doing in history.

At the center of the debate is the question of "the Israel of God" (Gal 6.16). Of course, this is not a new question. During our Lord's earthly ministry and after his resurrection and before his ascension, the disciples asked him repeatedly, "Lord, are you at this time going to restore the kingdom to Israel?" (Acts 1.6).

Indeed, there was a widespread rabbinic and popular notion that the Messiah should be a powerful politico-military figure of Davidic strength and skill -- "David has slain his tens of thousands" (1 Sam 18.7). John 614-15 records,  After the people saw the miraculous sign that Jesus did, they began to say, "Surely this is the Prophet who is to come into the world." 15 Jesus, knowing    that they intended to come and make him king by force, withdrew again to a mountain by himself.

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http://www.icdc.com/~dnice/disp.html

Dispensationalism: A Return to Biblical Theology or A Pseudo Christian Cult

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http://www.pressiechurch.org/Theol_1/a_comparison_of_three_systems.htm

A Comparison of Three Systems Dispensationalism - Covenant Theology - New Covenant Theology by Donald Hochner

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http://www.preteristarchive.com/index.html

 

Christian History & "The Preterist Assumption"

Preterism is the belief that all Bible prophecies, including those concerned with the Second Coming of Jesus, the Resurrection of the Dead, the Rapture, the Judgment and the arrival of the Kingdom of God, came to fulfillment in a.d. 70 at the destruction of Herod’s temple in Jerusalem as predicted by Jesus in Luke 21:

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http://www.christianzionism.org

Challenging Christian Zionism

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http://www.orthodoxytoday.org/articles/CarlsonPremillenial.htm

 

 "Left Behind" and the Corruption of Biblical Interpretation

David Carlson

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http://www.amazon.com/Will-Catholics-Left-Behind-Apologetics/dp/0898709504/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/103-0942420-3421445?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1195596562&sr=8-1

Will Catholics Be Left Behind?

A Catholic Critique of the Rapture and Today's Prophecy Preachers

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http://www.mctsowensboro.org/blog/?p=180

How can a “literal” hermeneutic or “literal” interpretation of the Bible conclude that the Church is the Israel of God?

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http://www.bereanbiblechurch.org/transcripts/galatians/6_16-18.htm

The Israel of God

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Here is an interesting brief summary from an advocate of:

Amillennial Eschatology rather than;

Premillennial Pre-Tribulation Rapture Dispensationalism.

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http://shepherdtheflock.com/what-i-believe/

I am Amillennial in my eschatology, affirming the scriptural truths that when Christ comes back to earth a second time, it is all over but ‘the end’.
· Christ is clearly reigning on David’s throne right now: Acts 2:30-31, 36; Isa 9:7; Rev 1:5; Rev 2:27; Luk 1:22-23, etc.
· The ‘Kingdom of God’ does not with signs to be observed by human eyes, and is not of this world: Luke 17:20-21; John 18:36; etc.
· Satan, the ruler of this world, has been cast out, defeated, made a puplic spectacle of, and no longer has the power to deceive the nations (gentiles) from the light of the gospel: John 12:32; 2 Thess 2:6-7; Col 2:15; Rev 20, etc.
· The judgment of this world, the final judgment, happens when Christ returns a second time, and is clearly not preceeded by a 1000year period: 2 Peter 3:3-13; 1 John 4:17; 2 Thessalonians 1:5-12; John 5:28-29; Matt 16:27; Matthew 25:31-46, 1 Cor 15:23-24, 54-55, etc.
· Finally, an exegesis of 1 Cor 15:23-55, among other passages, shows without a doubt that when believers obtain their immortal bodies, which happens at Christ’s return, the last enemy death will have been defeated and we will enter the eternal state. Therefore, the concept of immortal believers walking around earth with other mortal beings, and that these mortal beings somehow rise up against Christ and the immortal beings (as premillennialists teach from Rev 20), is an idea that is both unbiblical and untenable

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From. http://www.christianzionism.org/Article/Burge01.asp

Christian Zionism, Evangelicals and Israel
Gary M. Burge, Ph.D.

Dispensationalism had a variety of detractors over time and today we cannot think of all evangelicals as dispensationalists. Nevertheless, while formal Dispensationalism with its complex view of the covenants has lost a large following, what remains is the skeleton of its eschatology. Technically called pre-tribulation, pre-millennialism it defends Darby's basic outline: Israel returns to the Holy Land, the church is raptured, a tribulation brings Armageddon, and Christ returns.

This framework remained prominent for evangelicals but throughout the 1940s dispensationalists began to believe that the birth of Israel was imminent. When it occurred in 1948, Dispensationalists were euphoric. The key piece was now in place. Israel's swift victory in 1967 - hailed by many as a divine miracle - sparked even more zeal for prophesy. Writers such as Walvoord and Ryrie viewed modern history through this Biblical lens for a new generation. In 1970 Hal Lindsey then published The Late Great Planet Earth which popularized and dramatized the unfolding of political events in Israel and how the Bible predicted them. To date, Lindsey's original book has sold 25 million copies. More recently Tim LaHaye and Jerry Jenkins' popular Left Behind series fictionalizes this eschatology and has sold over 50 million copies in 11 volumes.

These remarkable numbers of publishing sales are important because they show that among countless Christians in America, there is a residual eschatology at work - and most of them have no idea where it came from. Just ask someone who goes to church how they think the world will end. Many will recite Lindsey to you claiming that this is what the Bible teaches.

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From http://www.realnews247.com/apocalypse_now.htm

Apocalypse Now
by Aaron D. Wolf

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At the time when Darby, Rueben A. Torrey, C.I. Scofield (of the dispensationalist “Scofield Reference Bible”), and W.E. Blackstone were winning mass converts to dispensationalism, there was no nation of Israel. Hence, Blackstone, a resident of Oak Park, Illinois, and a friend of D.L. Moody, began holding “Christian Zionist” conferences in Chicago during the 1890’s. His book, Jesus Is Coming, was a bestseller, and, in 1891, Blackstone drafted a petition demanding the creation of an Israeli state in Palestine, which was subsequently signed by the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court; the speaker of the House, the mayors of Chicago, New York, and Boston; and such prominent figures as Cyrus McCormick, John D. Rockefeller, and J.P. Morgan. Blackstone, in 1918, was hailed “the father of Zionism,” and, in 1956, the Israeli government named a forest after him.

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From: http://members.aol.com/twarren14/reformedchil.html

 

The Reformation's Repudiation of Chiliasm

by Prof. Russell J. Dykstra

Prof. Dykstra is professor of Church History and New Testament in the Protestant Reformed Seminary.

At the end of 1533 the Anabaptist group at Munster in Westphalia, under the leadership of a former Lutheran minister Bernard Rothman, gained control of the city council. Early in 1534 a Dutch prophet and ex-innkeeper named John of Leyden appeared in Munster, believing that he was called to make the city the new Jerusalem. On 9 February 1534 his party seized city hall. By 2 March all who refused to be baptized were banished, and it was proclaimed a city of refuge for the oppressed. Though the Bishop of Munster collected an army and began the siege of the city, an attempted coup within the walls was brutally suppressed, and John of Leyden was proclaimed King of New Zion, wore vestments as his royal robes, and held his court and throne in the market-place. Laws were decreed to establish community of goods, and the Old Testament was adduced to permit polygamy. Bernard Rothman, once a man of sense, once the friend of Melanchthon, took nine wives.

They now believed they had been given the duty and the power of exterminating the ungodly. The world would perish, and only Munster would be saved. Rothman issued a public incitement to world rebellion: 'Dear brethren, arm yourselves for the battle, not only with the humble weapons of the apostles for suffering, but also with the glorious armour of David for vengeance…in God's strength, and help annihilate the ungodly.' An ex-soldier named John of Geelen slipped out of the city, carrying copies of this proclamation into the Netherlands, and planned sudden coups in the Dutch cities…. At last, on 25 June 1535, the gates of Munster were opened by sane men within the walls, and the bishop's army entered the city. The cages where the corpses of Anabaptist leaders were hung are still hanging on the tower of St. Lambert's Church.1 

Such is the record of this shocking uprising of radicals who held to an earthly kingdom of Christ. The revolt at Munster had a profound effect on Europe. The rulers were alarmed at this radical group labeled "Anabaptist," and serious efforts were made everywhere to root out these dangerous fanatics.

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From : http://www.cc-vw.org/articles/zcs2.pdf

How often have you heard the Jewish people described as God’s ‘chosen people’? Probably so often that you have never even questioned it. It is so ingrained that to deny it is often seen as evidence of anti-Semitism. As is the assumption that God blesses and curses nations on the basis of how they treat Israel – which is sometimes used as a threat. ……………………………………

 It may surprise you to discover that the New Testament never uses the term ‘chosen’ to describe the Jewish people. It is only used of those who follow Jesus. Does that mean God has two separate ‘chosen people’? Some like to think so. They are usually called ‘dispensationalists’ and this is a popular viewpoint among evangelicals in the United States. 

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It is ironic that some Christian Zionists accuse their critics of holding to a ‘replacement theology’ – the idea that the Church has replaced Israel - when many actually believe Israel will soon replace the Church as God’s people on earth. They have, as Dr Gilbert Bilezikian observed, made, ‘Israel the bride and the Church the concubine’.

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Concerning Romans 9.

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From: http://mcc.org/peace/pon/PON_2005-03.pdf

The “Israel” of which Paul speaks is
rather a people group, Paul’s own “kindred
according to the flesh” (9:3). More to the
point, it is a faith community. These are
the people to whom “belong the adoption,
the glory, the covenants, the giving of the
law, the worship, and the promises; to
them belong the patriarchs, and from them,
according to the flesh, comes the Messiah”
(9:4–5). It is this people group and this faith
community over which Paul anguishes as
he considers the purposes of God. Thus
for Paul the “salvation” of “Israel” has to
do not with the successful emergence of a
nation state but with the place of a faith
community within God’s redemptive plans
for humankind.

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From: http://www.thepeoplesvoice.org/cgi-bin/blogs/voices.php/2007/12/13/dealing_with_christian_zionists_inside_o_1

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We Hold These Truths and Project Strait Gate can share what we have learned from uncounted conversations at vigils in front of about 50 of the biggest Judeo-Christian churches in America. We have come to view those who have strong feelings about their faith and who profess to be Christians in two general camps, Judeo-Christians and Christ followers, the first being a large camp and the latter a very small one, which we call the Strait Gate.(2)*

It should be obvious that many do not fit in either of the above camps, are either ambivalent or confused, but for reasons of their own they go to church. Some who read this will say they have, at times, been in all three camps.

Christ followers, by our label, generally believe that Jesus is the fulfillment of biblical prophesies, mostly fulfilled in the first century AD when Jesus came, taught, set up his earthy discipleship, was crucified under the will of the Pharisees, and arose from the dead. They think Jesus told His followers about His heavenly kingdom so they would seek it, a state of spiritual reward; but not without a judgment that would be visited upon each when we exit physical life.

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From: http://www.mountainretreatorg.net/eschatology/christian_zionism.html

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Unfortunately, for some, Messianic Judaism is seen as an alternative to historic Christianity. This is due to the influence of pop-dispyism. After all, if the Millennium is right around the corner, and Jewish culture will be imperialistically triumphant during the Millennium, then even today Jewish practices anticipate that superiority. In fact, some Messianic Jews apparently believe that they can claim unlimited financial support from Gentile Christians, because of this preeminence.

Most of what I have written regarding Christian Zionism above applies to this group of Messianic Jews. I should like, however, to call attention to another facet of the matter. These Messianic Jews believe wrongly that Gentile Christianity (the historic church) departed from Biblical forms in the early days of the church. They see as their mission a restoration of these customs, which they believe they have preserved.

In fact, this is completely false. Anyone who has seen a presentation of "Christ in the Passover" is amazed at the number of non-Biblical rites that are discussed and exhibited (the use of eggs, bread broken in three pieces and hidden in cloth, etc.). These customs arose after the birth of the church, and do not preserve Old Testament ritual at all. Moreover, to try to place a Christian interpretation on the various features of these rituals is most misguided and artificial. Clever as such presentations are, they are grossly misleading.

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From: http://www.economist.com/books/displaystory.cfm?story_id=10281434

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If there is a single word that describes the mentality of the power-brokers of the Christian-Zionist movement, as portrayed by Ms Clark, it might be Deuteronomic: theirs is a brand of religion which is fascinated by military power and the subjugation of enemies, which adamantly externalises evil and finds no place for humility, self-doubt, compassion or universal humanism. Its adherents talk a lot about the Jewish Temple but they seem to have missed what some see as the temple's ultimate message: the possibility of experiencing the presence of God. (Many Christians, in turn, see a similar message in the promise of Jesus Christ to “stand in the midst” of any group of people who gather in his name, anywhere on earth.)

Over the centuries, pioneer peoples, from the Ulster Protestants to the Boers, have drawn inspiration from passages in the Old Testament which describe the acquisition of new land, and the dispossession of its earlier inhabitants. What makes America's Christian Zionists unusual is that their fascination with conquest is vicarious: it is projected onto a land thousands of miles away. The movement's followers are unlikely to feel at first hand the consequences of the policies they advocate. This makes their aspirations both more aggressive and more fantastical. If Ms Armstrong gives the bare bones—and it is just the bare bones—of an alternative view of the scriptures, that is a badly needed service.

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From: http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1196847365018&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

19 Tevet 5768, Friday, December 28, 2007 22:49 IST

Evangelical groups face visa hurdles

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Over the last year, the Christian Zionist organizations have faced unprecedented criticism by non-evangelical Christian leaders in the Holy Land for their unflinching support for the State of Israel. They have also been given the cold shoulder by the Chief Rabbinate, which recently banned Jewish participation in a major Christian-sponsored tourism event due to concerns of proselytizing, despite widespread support in the Israeli public for the Christian Zionists.

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From: http://www.missiontoisrael.org/id-crisis-pics.php

 The Jewish Almanac, Compiled and Edited by Richard Siegel and Carl Rheins, Bamtam Books, 1980, p.3

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IDENTITY CRISIS

A BRIEF HISTORY OF THE TERMS FOR "JEW"

Strictly speaking, it is incorrect to call an ancient Israelite a “Jew” or to call a contemporary Jew an “Israelite or a “Hebrew.” The first Hebrews may not have been Jews at all, and contemporary Palestinians, by their own definition of the term “Palestinian,” have to include Jews among their own people—although in choosing the name “Palestine” for their homeland, they have picked a name that originally signified the

Opposite: an enclave of foreigners. A “Zionist” in the strict sense is not an expansionist: the original “Zion” was only a single hill in Jerusalem. Not a whole land, much less from the Nile to the Euphrates,” as the maximalists maintain.

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From: http://www.nysun.com/article/70089

Methodists To Mull Divestment From Israel

By SETH GITELL
Special to the Sun
January 24, 2008

 

The nation's largest and most prominent mainline Protestant denomination, the 11 million-member United Methodist Church — whose members include both President Bush and Senator Clinton — is set to take up the issue of whether to divest from companies that do business with Israel.

The meeting, which is to be held on Friday in Fort Worth, Texas, will mark the highest level of consideration that the subject of economic divestment from the Jewish state has received within the Methodist denomination.

 

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Edwin Joseph Moelder +
Evangelist
United States of America Air Force Veteran
Great Grand Son of CSA Veterans
Descendant of Zipporah Murray, Christopher Gist, Shem, Heber, Abraham, Israel, Judah and Joseph.

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